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of the spectrum. let's say for the sake of argument that in fact obama does win this election. it seems more probable than not heard there will be allowed a disappointment on the republican side. how do think the debates are. to play out? how closely are people going to grapple if this does happen? >> i think it will play in a way that will disappoint conservative activist and disappoint democrats. the reason why ideologues' like the care about this election is the affordable care act. when you look at a lot of folks on the right, there is a real belief that an affordable care act creates -- will prove problematic in a lot of ways. you hear this from all lot of liberal policies scholars as well. the divide between esi and the exchanges is tricky. it's hard to see how that will play out. we could have a debate -- that is the idea that this will prove an expense. yet, it is extremely difficult to retrench. when you have a coverage expansion of this kind, people say, bill clinton cozy health security act was defeated. over 20 years, can you had a number of expansion efforts, medicaid programs t
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